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What’s Up With Generic Concerta?

After advising caution regarding generic medications for ADHD here and here, I’m now hearing that Concerta is recently available in a generic form in the United States. (A generic has been available in Canada for some time, but it is a different type of generic.) The question: Does this generic perform as reliably as Concerta? Maybe. In fact, it might be the exact same medication.

Original Concerta, 54 mg

The details are hard to come by in a field swimming with lingo: co-licensed product, single-source generic, authorized generic, bioequivalent and clinically equivalent. My conversations with pharmacists and the manufacturer’s scientific liaison leave me thirsting for straight talk with no tricky qualifiers. Internet searches and first-person reports in online forums are made murky by the apparently marked difference between Canada’s generic Concerta and that in the U.S.. (Forum participants seldom specify where they live, presumably because most don’t realize there is a difference between the two countries’ generic versions of Concerta.)

The U.S. generic for Concerta is  methylphenidate hydrochloride extended-release tablets.  It is a co-licensed product by exclusive agreement — that is, a deal between the original manufacturer (Ortho-McNeil) and the pharmaceutical marketing arm of Watson Laboratories.

Both brand-name Concerta and the so-called “authorized generic” are manufactured in the same plant, said the Ortho-McNeil spokesperson by phone. And, this authorized generic is both bioequivalent and clinically equivalent.  Does that mean it’s the exact same medication?  I think so, but I cannot be absolutely sure at this point, as I am battling a persistent cold and very busy readying for the CHADD conference in Orlando.

According to this FTC report on generic drugs, it does appear to be virtually the same product:

An authorized generic is a lower-cost, generic-label version of a brand-name drug that is already sold by the same manufacturer. The Hatch-Waxman Act is designed to ease the introduction of generic drugs by, in certain circumstances, granting a 180-day period of marketing exclusivity to the first generic competitor of a brand-name drug, known as a “first-filer.” During that exclusivity period, no other generic company can receive FDA-approval to sell its product. However, this marketing exclusivity period does not prevent brand-name companies from introducing their own authorized generic versions.

According to a press release from Watson Laboratories, the first patent for Concerta is set to expire in 2018. Thanks to a legal settlement between two pharmaceutical manufacturers, however, a generic version became available much earlier, in May 2011. Due to the settlement, Watson Laboratories is allowed to sell an “authorized generic” version of Concerta.

Here is the apparent bottom line:  The original manufacturer, Ortho-McNeil. supplies Watson with brand-name Concerta tablets; Watson packages and sells the tablets as a generic drug.  That means the generic version is exactly like the brand-name Conceta in every way, except in price. For example, our mail-order pharmacy was charging $120 for a 90-day supply of Concerta; for this authorized-generic version, the charge is $20. Quite a savings if the results are the same.

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  1. Lisa’s avatar

    My husband has been on the exact pill, same dosage and everything, and I haven’t noticed any changes. He seems to have not noticed that he’s taking anything different either, he didn’t know it was a generic. So I don’t know when it changed. He’s doing really well and has been working very hard as of late.

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  2. Lisa’s avatar

    Whoops, he’s on the exact pill you used to illustrate the blog post with…

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    1. Gina Pera’s avatar

      Glad to hear that your husband is doing well, Lisa. Sorry to have confused you with the photo; I’ll add a caption.

      Some people have said that the authorized generic still looks like the original; you might have to check the bottle to see what it’s called.

  3. Michael’s avatar

    What’s up with stimulants?

    Good article, and important too. I need to get my Rx changed from Adderall (generics OK) to Concerta. I haven’t been able to get my “amphetamine salt combo” prescriptions filled at any local pharmacies in Raleigh, NC since last Spring. Without the Adderall I feel like I’m swimming in peanut butter! My pharmacist said “the manufacturers didn’t make enough pills to satisfy the demand” and “the raw materials to make the medicine is are in very short supply, across the country, hence the shortage”.

    I’m not blaming my pharmacist, but I wonder if you know anything about a nation wide shortage of stimulants, and also drugs for several other categories of health issues, like cancer/chemo drugs.

    PS – I’m in the Triangle Adult ADHD MeetUp Group, the largest Adult ADHD MeetUp in the world, and everybody I’ve talked to has this problem.

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    1. Gina Pera’s avatar

      Hi Michael,

      Thanks for your comment. And hello to the Research Triangle Adult ADHD Meetup group! I love that part of NC — even attended NC State my freshman year.

      To your question: Yes, it’s true. There has been a nationwide shortage of certain stimulants.

      Tim McGeorge, of the National Resource Center for ADHD, covered the issue on a CHADD blog:

      http://chaddleadershipblog.blogspot.com/2011/04/shortages-of-adhd-medications.html

      excerpt: It is expected that these shortages, which are the result of quotas imposed by the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) on the manufacturers, should be resolved within the next six to eight weeks. [note from Gina: this was written 4/13/11]

      What to do? If you experience difficulty in filling an ADHD prescription due to this shortage, here’s what you can do:
      • Ask your pharmacist if the medication is available from another location, especially if you use a large chain pharmacy.
      • Contact the manufacturer to help locate a pharmacy that has your medication in stock (see the customer service numbers below).
      • Contact the doctor who prescribed the medication to see if he/she has any samples you can use.
      • Ask your pharmacist about the availability of other medications used to treat ADHD.
      • As a last resort, discuss with your prescribing physician whether or not any of these available medications might be appropriate for you or your child.

      Finally, if you’ve exhausted all avenues and still can’t get a prescription filled due to a medication shortage:
      1. Tell the FDA: Send an email to drugshortages@fda.hhs.gov or call 888-INFOFDA or 888-463-6332.
      2. Tell CHADD: 800-233-4050.

      I hope this helps!
      Gina

  4. The All-Purpose Guru’s avatar

    The generic, in this case, is only different in classification. The generic “Methylphenidate ER capsules” sold by Walgreens in California are the identical drug to the name-brand– they both carry the Alza brand, and my pharmacist assures me they are identical. (He knows about the differences between generics and name-brand due to an unfortunate issue my wife had with generic Allegra)

    Unfortunately, even though the generic is a tenth the price, we still pay the non-generic copay on it because the drug is still “non-formulary”. Feh.

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    1. Gina Pera’s avatar

      Thanks for weighing in, AP Guru. I thought that was the case but, geez, so many tricky wordings these days. ;-)

      Bummer about your co-pay. Sometimes if you can document that the formulary choices don’t work for you, the insurance companies allow non-formulary at formulary prices.

      I’m thinking it might be worth checking out Costco Pharmacy, especially online. You don’t need to be a member to use the pharmacy (but members get slightly better prices). It might be that Costco’s generic Concerta is cheaper than your co-pay.

      g

  5. Jerry’s avatar

    I gladly went to the generic as soon as it was available (MA). Saved $30 a month in copay, and no apparent difference in effectivity!

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    1. Gina Pera’s avatar

      Good to know, Jerry! Thanks!

  6. Sally’s avatar

    I’m happy to find someone talking about this on-line.

    My 8 year old was on Concerta 18 MG for one month for ADHD and the second month the pharmacy gave me the generic and assured me I would see no difference.

    Day 3 and 4 of the generic meds (after the weekend) and he’s having issues in school. Not getting along with friends, crying over spilled water, not having as much self control, etc.

    It’s so hard to know if this is a blip in his treatment, if he needs a higher dosage or if it has to do with the generic.

    I called his doctor and she’s writing him a new prescription for Concerta (the real deal) but after reading this, I feel like we’re in a loophole of sorts Can you give me any perspective on how to advocate for my son?

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    1. Gina Pera’s avatar

      HI Sally,
      Did you check the label on the pill? Does it say “Alza?” (The 18 mg should look like the one in the photo above, but white, I think.)

      If so, that is the brand-name.

      If you’re in Canada, however, my understanding is that’s a different type of Concerta-generic.

      Generally speaking, when dealing with insurance companies in the U.S., you often have to try the cheaper alternative first. Then, if it doesn’t work for you or has unreasonable side effects, you can have the doctor document that for the insurance company. Often, they will then allow the brand-name. Just depends on your insurance plan.

      But in this case, the generic Concerta should be the same as the brand-name.

  7. Sally’s avatar

    Thank you, Gina, for your reply.

    The pill says alza 18 and looks identical to the Concerta he was on last month. And we’re in the U.S.

    So it’s sounding like what I need to do, is go ahead and fill the “real” Concerta (even though it’s the same) – and then we can rule out that his issues at school are not “generic” related but rather dosage related. Hopefully in a couple weeks we can get him on the right track.

    Thankfully my insurance company has no problem with me refilling it, and my co-pay is the same.

    It’s never easy, is it? Thank you for your thoughts, even though your primary focus is adults. I truly appreciate it.

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    1. Gina Pera’s avatar

      Hi Sally,

      Yes, it sounds like you have the brand-name Concerta.

      And yes, it sounds like a wise idea to look at other issues, including dosage, potential side effects (sometimes these appear over time, not right away), and any other change in routine that can affect brain function.

      While I do primarily focus on adults (because adults have been historically, woefully under-served), many of the issues are the same, no matter the age.

      best,
      g

  8. Paul’s avatar

    I met you at last years Atlanta Conference. I wish there were many many more people like you who have a good grasp on what it’s like to be
    ADHD and also how it relates to interactions with others.

    My past experiences with medications have been horrible. Through many “Professionals” I was constantly being told I was depressed, and went through the list of antidepressants, every few years, dealing with a frustration in life that I had no clue, as to the cause. Finally, after a nephew was diagnosed, I was encouraged to get tested (at age 52). Even after being diagnosed, I went through cartwheel inducing Adderall, followed by a dizzying drugged down feeling ending with my first and only panic attack under Wellbutrin.

    After reading more about ADHD, I suggested I try Ritalin. It was not immediately clear if it was working, but slowly I noticed that I was getting more done in less time, with less emotional effort. Much like I did when I was running 6-10 miles a day. (another story). I was on the short term (about 4-5 hours for me) generic Methylin. I later moved to the longer lasting generic Methylin ER. Both it worked great. Then the pharmacy switched over to the Metadate version. I found myself, struggling a bit more in the morning, ok near lunch, but in the afternoon, I found myself getting very talkative and often somewhat agitated. I went through about 20 days before I said “this isn’t right”. I explained what was going on and struggled to be believed. It was an awful feeling to be told that what I was saying couldn’t be happening, because it was the “same medication”. I firmly refused the Metadate version and even had to go out of state to get the Methylin ER when there was a shortage. I have now tried the Methylphenid ER version which seems to act identically to the Methylin ER. From your information and the conference last year, I now know so much more about myself and that how things affect me, may not affect others in the same way and that’s just the way it is.

    One of your best analogies, to help others understand how ADHD is for me, was from a video you did regarding cookie cutters. There is no one description or cookie cutter that fits us all.

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  9. Gina Pera’s avatar

    Hi Paul,

    Thanks so much.

    Sometimes we advocates get flak from all sides. Encouraging notes like yours, telling us we actually made a positive difference, are so very welcome. :-)

    I’m glad you stuck to your guns. That is really what it takes sometimes.

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  10. Jay’s avatar

    I’ll add another data point for not even noticing when I got switched to the “generic”. It’s so nice to pay less and not get screwed at the same time!

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    1. Gina Pera’s avatar

      Ha! Isn’t it great when that happens, Jay? Cuz it’s so rare!

      I was hitting the panic button when I checked the mail-order pharmacy status for my husband’s Concerta. I saw the “methylpheni….blah blah blah” and thought, damn! Another obstacle. Another hassle. They wear you down!

      I almost couldn’t believe that this change was a good one. lol!

  11. Casey’s avatar

    Has anyone had any trouble filling either Brand name Concerta or Generic version. I was just curious as what to expect on my next prescription. Thanks

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    1. Gina Pera’s avatar

      Hi Casey,

      I haven’t heard of any Concerta shortages. Just to play it safe, don’t wait until the last minute! :-)

  12. Casey’s avatar

    Thanks so much, I guess if I call the pharmacy about a week before hopefully that will be enough time to see if they might have Generic Concerta or not.

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    1. Gina Pera’s avatar

      Great idea, Casey. Good luck!

  13. Patricia Ongaro’s avatar

    Hi my 9 year old son had been on concerta for the last 2 school years and this year he started out fine in October and November he started acting weird, he was always scared even in the day time he wouldn’t be in a room by himself and was always hearing things and seeing things and his Pediatrician told me to take him off for the holidays and it made a world of difference, he is still afraid to sleep alone but he is functioning like a normal 9 year old. He is now on Intuniv and all it does is make him tired he has only been on it for 3 days so Im hoping it will eventually work for him. He has been home sick this week and when Im helping him with makeup work he gets very depressed and says that he is stupid cause he can’t concentrate…

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    1. Gina Pera’s avatar

      Hi Patricia — Do you know what changed in November? Was that when you tried the generic? (This is assuming you are in CANADA; in the U.S. the generic Concerta is the same as brand.)

      If no external factors changed, many internal factors could be contributing to the problem. Perhaps taking a stimulant alone has increased his anxiety. Often stimulants are paired with an anti-depressant, because many people with ADHD (“dopamine issues”) also have trouble with “serotonin issues.”

      He might also benefit from some amino acid support for serotonin, such as 5-HTP. I recommend that you read Dr. Charles Parker’s book. Here is a link to it on Amazon.com, for the Kindle version: http://www.amazon.com/ADHD-Medication-Rules-ebook/dp/B005JZ932W/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1322707700&sr=1-1

  14. Patricia Ongaro’s avatar

    I’m wondering if maybe there was something different in the generic brand concerta that made him feel paranoid.

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  15. Patricia Ongaro’s avatar

    > Hi thanks for your quick response and no nothing changed in November other
    > than him having to get rid of his puppy due to allergies. His pediatrician
    > had put him on Periactin to help with his appetite but I’m not sure if that
    > had anything to do with it. It was really scary to see him like that, he’s
    > never been a fan of the dark but this time he was seeing someone jump on my
    > porch at 3:00 am with the curtain closed, he was hearing screams in the
    > night and wouldn’t even go to the bathroom alone during the day, woldn’t go
    > to his room to play video games or watch tv, he stayed right next to me at
    > all times. I am really thinking that I need to take take him to a
    > neaurologist and have him tested and stuff, I don’t want to keep trying new
    > meds. Thank you so much for your input and advise…

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    1. Gina Pera’s avatar

      Patricia, I feel for you and your boy. It must be so hard to see a child go through these things and feel helpless.

      I would suggest, though, that there is much you can do to be pro-active — just as you are writing here and asking good questions. That is what people MUST do in order to get good medical care for their own or a loved one’s ADHD. No matter how good the doctor, we have to take this bull by the horns and be extremely pro-active.

      Did you stop the periactin? Of course, if the adverse symptoms started about the time he tried it, that could be the cause. it’s an antihistamine, and many people with ADHD have adverse, atypical reactions to antihistamines.

      But I do tend to think my previous response points to another obvious issue: the stimulant has backsuppressed serotonin. This can happen slowly over time, until one day it’s very clear. So you don’t often think it’s the stimulant medication causing the problem. Do read Dr. Parker’s book if you can. And also read through his website: http://www.corepsychblog.com

  16. Patricia Ongaro’s avatar

    Hi Gina well yes I got the book and it is very interesting, but I have to read sentences over and over cause I have ADD and I just can’t comprehend what Im reading and not to mention I think of other things when Im reading…LOL…Due to no medical insurance I don’t take any meds for it, but I do take zoloft 200mg for depression….

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    1. Gina Pera’s avatar

      Hi Patricia,

      Yes, I know the book covers much complex material.

      You know, I strongly encourage you to tackle your own ADHD symptoms as you try to help your child. It’s like they say on the airplanes — put on your own oxygen mask first! :-)

      You don’t need medical insurance to take medication for your ADHD; many of the medications are available at affordable prices, as affordable as zoloft surely.

      I should also point out that taking 200 mg of Zoloft could be WORSENING YOUR ADHD SYMPTOMS.

      Please talk to the physician who has prescribed the Zoloft and tell him/her that you want to talk about adding a stimulant.

      Good luck!
      g

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  17. Beck’s avatar

    I realize this is sort of an old post, but thought I would chime in in case someone (like me) is looking for info on generic Concerta. My 9 year old has been on Concerta for several years. We switched him to generic Concerta in June and I didn’t notice any change. Looking back now, I think this is because he was out of school and his days were just composed of fun activities and free time and he didn’t really have a lot of opportunities to get frustrated over work.

    When school started, we put him in a private school that specializes in kids with learning differences. At first we thought he was just taking a while to adjust to a new school, but his behaviors only increased in severity. He refused to do any work, would run out of the classroom, screaming/crying/fits, and eventually started attacking the other kids. He was asked to leave the school in November. I home schooled him for a month while I worked with our local elementary school to get his services back in place. He has been in this school since he was 3 and we’ve had a great team of aides and support people. Right before Christmas, he started going to school for just half of the day. We all agreed that since his behaviors had been so much more intense than they were in the past, that a half day was probably all he could manage.

    The team at the school has been documenting every outburst/whine/tantrum and keeping a detailed spreadsheet. We have probably 4-5 weeks worth of sheets now and every day he has an average of about 10-12 behaviors that require the team’s attention. (in four hours) He spends a lot of time by himself in the resource room, by choice.

    Last week, a friend gave me her son’s leftover name-brand Concerta that he was not going to take and it was the same dosage as normal for my son. (Yes, I know this is probably frowned upon, but we do what we can to save money.) He took the first one on Saturday. On Monday and again today (Tuesday) at school, he stayed in the regular classroom the entire time and did not have a SINGLE issue. This is a child who at times has three adults with him at school to help manage his behaviors and he made it through two days without a single whine, cry, anything. His team was amazed and asked about any changes in his routine. The ONLY thing different has been the name-brand Concerta. I realize that 2 days is not enough time to establish that this is a definite behavior change that can be attributed to switching meds, but after having every day at school be a disaster since August, getting kicked out of a school that specializes in helping kids like him, and reducing the length of his school day by 50%, this is truly miraculous for him.

    I’m sticking with name-brand and hoping that my gut instinct is correct. I had just brought up the possibility of the generic Concerta being part of the problem with his psychiatrist last week. She said that it “wouldn’t be unusual” and wrote a new script to be name brand. Hoping that when our freebie pills run out, our insurance will let us get the name brand again without too much of a hassle.

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    1. Gina Pera’s avatar

      Hi Beck,

      Thanks for sharing your story. It really hits home the point: The right medication can make a huge difference.

      I assume you are in Canada? Because the generic in the U.S. is actually the exact same as the brand (in fact, it IS the brand).

      thanks
      Gina

    2. Jim Trimble’s avatar

      Yes, the medication contained within each pill is exactly the same for the Concerta and the Generic. The DIFFERENCE is the time release coating/structure of the pill. This is the part of the medication that is under patent and cannot be copied by the Generic. This is what causes the drastic differences in the effects of the Concerta and it’s Generic. So those of you parents that are seeing the drastic change in your child… Name brand Concerta has a wax coat that has 22% of the medication contained in it and a hole is placed on the end by a laser to create an osmotic effect (water enters through the hole and releases the medication in a stable, balanced fashion). Because the generic is not designed in the same fashion, it releases differently and thus the difference in effect.

    3. Gina Pera’s avatar

      Hi Jim,

      That information you share is counter to what I’ve determined otherwise. If it is made by the same manufacturer with the same standards, it is the same medication. It looks exactly the same. Exactly. Generics cannot look exactly the same as the brand. Can you please site any sources for your information? Thanks!

  18. Carol’s avatar

    My 8 year old duaghter’s teacher informed me that her behavior had turned defiant again, like before her concerta, and wanted to know if she had been forgetting to take it. After looking into it, I realized the last refill had been generic. I found out that, yes, the medicine may be the same in Concerta and the generic but the capsule is made different which causes different delivery amounts and times. Something as small as this made a big difference in my daughter’s behavior.

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    1. Gina Pera’s avatar

      Hi Carol,

      Thanks for sharing your experience. I assume you are in Canada?

  19. Carol’s avatar

    No, Ky. From what I’ve read the concerta capsule and generic capsule are not the same, even if medicine inside are the same. This difference in capsules effects how the medicine is delivered into the child’s system.

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    1. Gina Pera’s avatar

      Actually, no, that’s not the case with the “generic” Concerta made in the U.S.. (But it is true for the one available in Canada.)

      The so-called “generic” Concerta in the U.S. is the exact same capsule in all ways. It is made by the brand manufacturer and distributed as a generic through a marketing agreement. It is called generic merely as a point of sales-marketing.

  20. S. Helms’s avatar

    The months of June and July were causing me to think to myself, “What is wrong with me?” In August I noticed on the Concerta bottle it was GENERIC!! No one told me. The pills are no different. What I went through to get the med changed to name brand was unbelievable. I don’t think anyone believed me that there was such a big difference. Finally in September, I took my first brand name Concerta. I thought it might take a few days to notice the difference. Then the same morning I took the correct pill it dawned on me, “I am doing more and feeling much sharper.” Who would have thought? I was on my way back to being productive and useful again. I might add the reason for taking Concerta is a TBI. I was going merrily on my way then….I had the script refilled. Sunday morning was the first time. I thought this day is a loss because I can’t get anything accomplished and am so tired. Oh well, it’s just one of those days I decided. But it wasn’t! The next day was worse and the next day even more so. I grabbed the bottle to see if it was generic. It wasn’t. This has gone on for a month feeling that I’m feeling like a dud, can’t think things through and so so tired. It’s odd this started when I started a new bottle of Concerta. What I would like to know is how can I tell if I am getting the brand name. They look exactly alike and who would ever know which is which? Also, it would be so easy to get them mixed up at the pharmacy. The pharmacy I called was a bit touchy that I would even think I was getting the generic instead of name brand. She came right out and said “They are not switching one for the other on me.” Yikes. They have assured me the brand name and generic are exactly the same. They are wrong. I’m the one taking the pills not them. There is a big difference. After a month of despair about this, I have analyzed everything I do, everything I eat, everyone I talk to and everything I do. Everything points back to the day I took one pill from the new bottle of brand name Concerta. What is your opinion of the sudden change and also of the difference between the brand name and generic.

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    1. Gina Pera’s avatar

      Hi Lucie,

      That is very curious! I wish I had an explanation. But all the best information I can find says that, in the U.S., the brand and generic of Concerta are exactly the same. The only difference is the price charged (and some people tell me that it’s not that different given their insurance policies; others report a big savings).

      If the pills you have look like the one depicted in this post, then they should be the brand (even if they’re called “generic”).

      I will repeat one more time: There IS a difference in CANADA between generic and brand Concerta. NOT in the U.S., though, it is reported.

      I’ll keep my ear to the ground on this issue, and if I hear anything will let you know.

      Gina

    2. Tina’s avatar

      Ian having the EXACT Same problem. My doctor the wrote for brand name only and last night when I filled my prescription they gave us the generic. Brougght it back, they said they switched the pills to the brand name but now in not sure. Took my morning dose today and feel anxious, almost speedy. Called the pharmacy back today and asked them if they have Concerta 36 mg in stock. They stated no they only have generic, they would have to order them. At 7 pm last night(2 minutes after closing time) they supposedly replaced our generic with name brand but after being open for 1 hour this morning they have no brand name? Something is Definitely fishy. I understand why the pharmacy insists they are the same pill, but my daughter and I take them and we both independently feel anxiety and headache and irritation after taking them. This is NOT in our heads. I am a nurse and have been on this medicine for years.

    3. Gina Pera’s avatar

      Hi Tina,

      Thanks for sharing your experience.

      The thing is, you cannot be sure this isn’t psychosomatic, can you? You already knew it was a “generic” before you took it and so, given generics’ track records, you might have had some anxiety around that?

      I’m not discounting your experience, but the nature of scientific testing is having a “blind” control.

      And perhaps the pharmacy doesn’t quite know the language to communicate regarding a “generic” that isn’t really a generic but the name brand sold as a generic.

      Just a thought!

  21. cookieJones’s avatar

    I’ve been taking Concerta 54 (USA) for 10+ years with great success, until the generic came out. I’m usually happy to take generics because I can’t tell any difference, but not so with Concerta. I don’t care what they claim, generic Concerta is NOT the same. It’s not only weaker, but wears off much sooner. It should last 16 hrs but after 8 hrs it feels like I haven’t taken anything at all. This is not my imagination. I didn’t even know I was getting generic, or even that there WAS a generic, when I started noticing a difference. (My ins requires substituting generic if available).

    To those who insist it’s made by the same manufacturer as brand-name Concerta, ergo exactly the same: that’s only in theory. Think about this: If the same company is making thier own product AND their competitor’s product, might they not have a vested interest in NOT making their competitor’s product quite as good as their own, whether “accidentally on purpose” or not? It’s an absurd business arrangement, come to think of it. Technically they may follow the same procedures and use the same formulation, but probably cut corners by using cheaper, lower-quality ingredients, looser quality control, lower-skilled workers etc etc.

    Whatever the reason (and I’m sure we’ll find out – eventually), nothing will convince me that they are identical.

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    1. Gina Pera’s avatar

      I hear you, Cookie! :-)

      And I believe you.

      But, again. you don’t mention if you are in the US or Canada. I assume you are in the U.S.

      I wouldn’t put anything past “commerce” but the FDA does have certain requirements, and I’m pretty sure the labeling cannot be exactly the same if the medication is not made exactly the same way.

      I guess time will tell…..

      Thanks for weighing in.

  22. CookieJones’s avatar

    Thanks, Gina, for believing me! – I’m in the US, btw.

    I agree it doesn’t seem logical. Maybe only some of them are bad. Maybe a bunch got overheated sitting on a loading dock in the sun … something accidental like that. All I know is, what I got isn’t working. So for now I’m having my Dr write the Rx so I don’t get the generic any more (tho my co-pay will more than double)

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  23. dj’s avatar

    I, too, had a bad experience the first time I tried the identical generic. I went back on the name brand and it worked again. That was last summer. Now, due to the fact that I forgot to specify, I am taking the generic again, with no apparent difference in effect (and at a much lower copay, I might add).

    Could it be there is a QUALITY CONTROL problem with the Watson version? We have pretty much established they are the same drug, made on the same production line, with the same markings. So maybe the problem is with quality control during the Watson production runs, or with handling or temperature or humidity post-production?

    This is the only theory I can come up with that would explain the apparently random and occasional differences between the two sources.

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    1. Gina Pera’s avatar

      Gee. Thanks, DJ.

      This is worth further investigation.

      I know nothing about illegal pharma sales (counterfeit perhaps), but I wonder if something more than meets the eye is going on here.

      tx
      g

  24. Jim Trimble’s avatar

    Yes I am in the USA and this is the case in the USA…

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  25. Brett’s avatar

    I just wanted to chime in on this, I was web surfing about this and found you all.

    I noticed I had received the generic’s about a couple months back at Walgreen’s when my script copay dropped in price from like 30 to 5 dollars. I asked if they made a mistake, and they replied no, so I let it slide figured they made a mistake in my favor. Later I did notice on the bottle it was not Concerta anymore this concerned me, after all this stuff does who knows what exactly??… and it does it in the brain! I don’t want any mess ups in there so I had compared to some older pills I had in the cabinet, and they looked identical but, I did notice it was not working as well. So on my next refill I requested Concerta instead of the generic, and I definitely noticed a difference. It did cost more but in my opinion they are different. If you have any doubts try switching back and see if you have the same results.

    It was funny when I requested the non generic Walgreen’s took like a week to get order filled.

    I live in the US near Chicago

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    1. Gina Pera’s avatar

      Thanks for chiming in, Brett.

  26. RS’s avatar

    My 7-year old son was diagnosed with Inattentive ADD a little while back, maybe in September. He has been on Concerta since about week after his diagnosis – the first med caused heart palpitations. He is now on 27mg Concerta. Recently, we went back to the psychologist for further testing (learning disabilties) and the psychologist told me that my son should NOT take the generic form of Concerta, that is an inferior product. (We are in California). He went on to say that the FDA does not set standards for generic medications like they do for the brand name medications, and that the generic form is substandard. We started my son out on Concerta, but then I read the generic was the same med so for the past few months I filled the Rx with the generic.

    That was a mistake. My son stops focusing about 8 hours in instead of the duration he was able to focus on the Concerta. My proof was that in his after-school martial arts class he had been able to focus, but on the generic he was not able to focus because that is later in the day.

    I just filled his Rx today and have a few of the generics left. I cannot tell one iota of difference in them in a side-by-side comparison, but I see the differences in my son when he takes both types.

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    1. Gina Pera’s avatar

      Hi RS,
      The FDA does, in fact, set standards for generic medications. The possible complications come from issues I wrote about in this blog post from 2009:

      Moreover, as any experienced physician can tell you, generics can wreak havoc with that narrow “therapeutic window” — the dose that works best with the least side effects. A few miligrams up or down can mean trouble, and the FDA allows a wide window of efficacy. In the U.S., the FDA requires the bioequivalence of the generic product to be between 80% and 125% of that of the original product. Bioequivalence, however, does not mean that generic drugs must be exactly the same (“pharmaceutical equivalent”) as their original product counterparts, as chemical differences may exist.

      Moreover, branded drugs and their generics almost always contain different dyes, fill materials and binding — ingredients to which many people are allergic or have other adverse reactions. (And while I have no proof that it’s true, abundant anecdotal reports indicate that people with ADHD seem more prone to these sensitivities.) Imagine what happens when your pharmacy changes suppliers on a regular basis (and this happens at many pharmacies). Imagine when your physician has no clue that it’s the filler that’s the problem and not the medication — or some “unmasked” co-existing disorder, like bi-polar. Talk about neurochemical roller coasters! Consumer Reports tests cars, so you should trust them that this is a safe ride? Not on your life.

      You can read the rest of the post here: http://adhdrollercoaster.org/the-basics/consumer-reports-on-vacuum-cleaners-maybe-on-adhd-medications-definitely-not/#more-96

  27. Deb’s avatar

    Thanks so much for all of this voluminous information. My son was just diagnosed with ADHD (he is 8) and I live in USA. Just filled his first script for Concerta (18mg), and they gave me the generic. He’s been on it for only two days, and his impulsiveness seems to have decreased, however, his teacher still needs to redirect constantly. I’m hoping that with increased dosage (as his doctor suggested might be necessary after a trial period), we will have his issues under control, but after reading all of these posts, I may bite the bullet when his next script is due and pay the $120 for the brand name.

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    1. beverly’s avatar

      Hi Deb,

      It took my son months to acclimate himself to ritalin/concerta. His brain needed to adjust to the drug. Now, for him, what a help it’s been! Give it a little time before changing it around. And good luck! Incidentally, my son now uses generic and doesn’t feel a difference.

      Best, Beverly

  28. lynn’s avatar

    I bought the generic concerta a couple days ago because I have no insurance and the “real” would have cost $265 (36mg, 30 pills). So far I hate the effects I am feeling! I can’t focus or remember a thing! My brain is racing (opposite of real concerta!) so bad I’m combining words,can’t finish a sentence or grasp a thought! Physically I feel uncomfortably wired and my ears are ringing. Anybody else have this happen to them? Right now I wish I paid the extra $85 for Concerta. I can’t imagine taking this stuff for a month!!!

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  29. beverly’s avatar

    Hi Gina,

    I my child is 21 now, and I find myself without coverage for his meds, which for asthma and ADD are expensive! I just had to pay $185.00 at CVS, in L.A., California for generic Concerta (Methylphenidate ER 36). All this year, each month we’ve been paying more and more for his prescription. I wish I could find the sort of savings you write of. Any source suggestions would be VERY appreciated.

    Thanks!

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    1. Gina Pera’s avatar

      Hi Beverly,

      You might want to shop around, even checking Wal-Mart and Costco.

      Also, your son might qualify for assistance from pharmaceutical manufacturer. Most have programs that help those who cannot afford the medications. Contact Concerta’s manufacturer (Jannsen Pharmaceuticals).

      For information on free or discounted prescription medications, visit access2wellness.com or call 866-317-2775.

  30. Steph’s avatar

    I just switched back to Concerta fom the generic and did notice a difference in the Alza stamp size and the pill shape. The ends of the pill are not exactly the same so how can the generic be the same exact pill as the branded one if the stamp looks different and the shape is slightly different. I will keep you posted as to whether I notice a difference over the next two weeks. I just know that I felt great until about six months ago and that is when I was switched to the generic. I live in the U.S.

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  31. Claude’s avatar

    Stumbled across this board and thought I’d throw my two cents in. I’m in my forties and have been using Ritalin and/or Concerta for over ten years. I live in the US. Last summer, I noticed that the Concerta wasn’t working. I was hesitant to up the dosage and my MD advised that that I’d been using generics. I switched to Focalin with limited success and then back to Concerta – non-generic. The difference was immediate and noticeable. Now, unfortunately, I was given a generic brand again and, while I notice from above that there shouldn’t be any difference, I can’t help but notice that the drug isn’t working as well as it has when using the non-generics.

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    1. Gina Pera’s avatar

      Thanks Claude.
      g

  32. susan’s avatar

    Okay….I have taken concerta for several years I was off of it for the past year bc I was pregnant, etc…. when I filled my first scrip my copay had gone to $60.00….UGH!!!! So I talked w my pharmacist, who informed me that there was a “generic,” but my Dr would have to write a new scrip by that exact name, because…..the FDA does NOT recognize the “generic” as a generic so the pharmacies CANNOT fill a concerta scrip w the methylph…..whatever it is. Make sense?? So, the I paid my $60 and went on, the next two months I requested the generic from my Dr….went to my usual Target pharmacy, they weren’t stocking it???? So I drove to CVS, got it no prob, looked exactly the same….but only cost $30, I thought they screwed up, same thing the next month….then about two weeks ago I started to realize that I was so off task, not finishing things, remembering things, being impulsive w all kinds of things…..so I mentioned to my Dr, reminded her I have a 3 yr old and a newborn….maybe that’s it, she laughed and said let’s go back to the concerta…so ibid, headed to Target, discussed my feelings w the pharmacist again…..and she totally confirmed that the methylphenidate or whatever is NOT a generic.for concerta, the FDA has not Approved it…..hence why i cant fill my concerta scrip w the generic, its NOT a generic. Anywho….I have my $60 scrip and hope it works like it should…
    And I’m in the US….so confusing, but I will say they are NOT the same, wish they were…..

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    1. Gina Pera’s avatar

      Hi Susan, With a 3-year-old and a newborn, you have your hands full!

      I’m confused by parts of your report.

      1. “The FDA does not recognize the generic as a generic.”
      The generic would not be available if it weren’t recognized by the FDA.

      2. “My Dr would have to write a scrip by that exact name.”
      I wonder if the pharmacist was confusing the generic for Ritalin with the generic for Concerta. For both, the active medication is methylphenidate (MPH), but the delivery system is very different.

      Perhaps the pharmacist does not realize that there is an “authorized generic” for Concerta.

      My understanding is that the pharmacy can always substitute a generic unless the MD has expressly said “do not substitute with generic.”

      I hope that your new “brand” Concerta works for you. But really, it could be the newborn, eh? Pregnancy and delivery really changes your hormones and, as a result, your neurotransmitters.

      good luck sorting this out and thanks for sharing your experience.

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