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		<title>By: Dylan</title>
		<link>http://adhdrollercoaster.org/the-basics/headlines-we-love-adhd-is-biological/comment-page-1/#comment-78932</link>
		<dc:creator>Dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 04:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Gina.  Regardless of the date, it&#039;s always great to see research confirming the biological basis of ADHD.

I love your comment about why ADHD wasn&#039;t diagnosed in kids many years back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Gina.  Regardless of the date, it&#8217;s always great to see research confirming the biological basis of ADHD.</p>
<p>I love your comment about why ADHD wasn&#8217;t diagnosed in kids many years back.</p>
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		<title>By: Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan, I hope that you will reconsider your doubt regarding ADHD.  As Gina pointed out, kids of 20 (how about 40+) years ago were told to quit looking out the window, or to stop doodling, or daydreaming, and to clean up their rooms, for heaven&#039;s sakes.  There was nothing but running around, skinning knees, and breathing fresher air then than there is today.   And parents who were told that their child was very bright, but has trouble staying focused.

It is a fairly overwhelming experience to find late in life, after some wheels come off for no apparent reason, that, yes, it sounds like you have classic ADD symptoms.  Running the video of your life back in time is edifying when it passes moments and instances that -- with this new knowledge -- you recall for their confusion, bad consequences, or general inexplicability.  When I was in my 20&#039;s I visited a high school teacher of mine who allowed as how I had a good mind, but a &quot;lazy mind.&quot;  I had no idea what he meant, and immediately put it out of my mind.   30 years later that moment takes on a different meaning.   

Like any other molecule in the body, those in the brain that manage connections that create what we describe as focus, retention, and other qualities are just as susceptible to genetic and environmentally defined attributes as any other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan, I hope that you will reconsider your doubt regarding ADHD.  As Gina pointed out, kids of 20 (how about 40+) years ago were told to quit looking out the window, or to stop doodling, or daydreaming, and to clean up their rooms, for heaven&#8217;s sakes.  There was nothing but running around, skinning knees, and breathing fresher air then than there is today.   And parents who were told that their child was very bright, but has trouble staying focused.</p>
<p>It is a fairly overwhelming experience to find late in life, after some wheels come off for no apparent reason, that, yes, it sounds like you have classic ADD symptoms.  Running the video of your life back in time is edifying when it passes moments and instances that &#8212; with this new knowledge &#8212; you recall for their confusion, bad consequences, or general inexplicability.  When I was in my 20&#8242;s I visited a high school teacher of mine who allowed as how I had a good mind, but a &#8220;lazy mind.&#8221;  I had no idea what he meant, and immediately put it out of my mind.   30 years later that moment takes on a different meaning.   </p>
<p>Like any other molecule in the body, those in the brain that manage connections that create what we describe as focus, retention, and other qualities are just as susceptible to genetic and environmentally defined attributes as any other.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Sterner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Sterner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a 39 year old male who was rampantly hyperactive, impulsive, and rebellious from a very young age.  By the late 70s when ADD was a recognized &quot;disorder&quot;, I was having all sorts of difficulties with attention, executive function, and affective events.  My mother chose not to treat me with drugs; I know this was a very hard decision, and thus I do not pass judgement on it.

As a teen, I discovered that tobacco virtually solved my focus/motivation problems, and I used it to get through college.  Soon after graduating, I was trying to quit with the help of a doctor and began using Ritalin and subsequently Adderall, both of which had incredible initial effects, albeit dwindling returns with tolerance.  They are still somewhat effective today, as evidenced by return of symptoms with drug holidays.

It seems to me that the most reliable indicator in support of an ADHD diagnosis is when there is a clear positive effect from taking stimulant medications (or nicotine/caffiene for that matter).  There are many kids for which they don&#039;t work, or even have a negative effect on attention and/or mood.  In these cases, the root cause seems likely to be elsewhere, possibly an ASD or bipolar/affective condition.

So whether or not ADHD is considered a real &quot;disorder&quot; is largely irrelevant.  The differences in brain structure and/or chemistry that are being consistently demonstrated by science in people with the ADHD symptoms are real, and have evolved for a purpose, likely that of the &quot;hunter&quot; archetype, a disposition that is relatively less common in and definately ill-suited for our culture.

Specific diagnoses for most personality, developmental, and affective conditions are largely meaningless, a posit that is supported by the frequent comorbidity with other diagnoses and the wide discrepanpcy in response to drug therapy exhibited across the patient population.

The truth is that people having difficulties exhibit a range of symptoms which are a subset of the combined list of symptoms for many if not most of these diagnoses.  If drug therapy is to be used, it should be focused on finding the medication that relieves the symptoms most effectively rather than what drugs are used/approved for a given diagnosis and what dx number is reported to the insurance company.

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a 39 year old male who was rampantly hyperactive, impulsive, and rebellious from a very young age.  By the late 70s when ADD was a recognized &#8220;disorder&#8221;, I was having all sorts of difficulties with attention, executive function, and affective events.  My mother chose not to treat me with drugs; I know this was a very hard decision, and thus I do not pass judgement on it.</p>
<p>As a teen, I discovered that tobacco virtually solved my focus/motivation problems, and I used it to get through college.  Soon after graduating, I was trying to quit with the help of a doctor and began using Ritalin and subsequently Adderall, both of which had incredible initial effects, albeit dwindling returns with tolerance.  They are still somewhat effective today, as evidenced by return of symptoms with drug holidays.</p>
<p>It seems to me that the most reliable indicator in support of an ADHD diagnosis is when there is a clear positive effect from taking stimulant medications (or nicotine/caffiene for that matter).  There are many kids for which they don&#8217;t work, or even have a negative effect on attention and/or mood.  In these cases, the root cause seems likely to be elsewhere, possibly an ASD or bipolar/affective condition.</p>
<p>So whether or not ADHD is considered a real &#8220;disorder&#8221; is largely irrelevant.  The differences in brain structure and/or chemistry that are being consistently demonstrated by science in people with the ADHD symptoms are real, and have evolved for a purpose, likely that of the &#8220;hunter&#8221; archetype, a disposition that is relatively less common in and definately ill-suited for our culture.</p>
<p>Specific diagnoses for most personality, developmental, and affective conditions are largely meaningless, a posit that is supported by the frequent comorbidity with other diagnoses and the wide discrepanpcy in response to drug therapy exhibited across the patient population.</p>
<p>The truth is that people having difficulties exhibit a range of symptoms which are a subset of the combined list of symptoms for many if not most of these diagnoses.  If drug therapy is to be used, it should be focused on finding the medication that relieves the symptoms most effectively rather than what drugs are used/approved for a given diagnosis and what dx number is reported to the insurance company.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Pera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Pera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comment, Alan.  I sense your concerns are sincere, and you make a good point about being skeptical of an academic body that would declare homosexuality as a mental disorder (but it&#039;s always tricky to judge people and events out of their historical milieu).

Until recently, psychiatry was largely influenced by practicioners of the non-biological bent.  Dysfunctional human behaviors were attributed to everything but biology (and much was blamed on the mother).  Today, scientists such as the highly respected Dr. Nora Volkow are helping us to understand that the brain is not only an organ, it is the most vulnerable organ -- vulnerable to both genetic and environmental factors that take place before we are even conceived.

Any student of history can see that brain dysfunction has been with us always. It&#039;s only now that we are understanding its genesis and, hopefully, healing strategies. 

As for kids not having ADHD twenty odd years ago, most certainly they did. I meet and hear from them every day.  They are now well into adulthood and often carry significantly burdensome emotional baggage from going undiagnosed for their entire lives.   They sincerely wish that someone had mentioned ADHD as a possibility two decades ago.  And these are the lucky ones -- the ones who didn&#039;t die in car accidents, succumb to substance abuse, drop out of school, or become incarcerated.

I also meet newly diagnosed adults with ADHD who are in their 50s, 60s, 70s, and even 80s. ADHD has been with us always, it seems.  Here is a blog post about a medical textbook from the 1700s that documents the presence of what sounds like ADHD: http://adhdrollercoaster.org/adhd-in-the-news/newsflash-adhd-dates-back-to-1798-at-least/

As our society becomes more complex and requires more of the so-called Executive Functions (planning, prioritizing, etc.), ADHD often becomes more obvious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment, Alan.  I sense your concerns are sincere, and you make a good point about being skeptical of an academic body that would declare homosexuality as a mental disorder (but it&#8217;s always tricky to judge people and events out of their historical milieu).</p>
<p>Until recently, psychiatry was largely influenced by practicioners of the non-biological bent.  Dysfunctional human behaviors were attributed to everything but biology (and much was blamed on the mother).  Today, scientists such as the highly respected Dr. Nora Volkow are helping us to understand that the brain is not only an organ, it is the most vulnerable organ &#8212; vulnerable to both genetic and environmental factors that take place before we are even conceived.</p>
<p>Any student of history can see that brain dysfunction has been with us always. It&#8217;s only now that we are understanding its genesis and, hopefully, healing strategies. </p>
<p>As for kids not having ADHD twenty odd years ago, most certainly they did. I meet and hear from them every day.  They are now well into adulthood and often carry significantly burdensome emotional baggage from going undiagnosed for their entire lives.   They sincerely wish that someone had mentioned ADHD as a possibility two decades ago.  And these are the lucky ones &#8212; the ones who didn&#8217;t die in car accidents, succumb to substance abuse, drop out of school, or become incarcerated.</p>
<p>I also meet newly diagnosed adults with ADHD who are in their 50s, 60s, 70s, and even 80s. ADHD has been with us always, it seems.  Here is a blog post about a medical textbook from the 1700s that documents the presence of what sounds like ADHD: <a href="http://adhdrollercoaster.org/adhd-in-the-news/newsflash-adhd-dates-back-to-1798-at-least/" rel="nofollow">http://adhdrollercoaster.org/adhd-in-the-news/newsflash-adhd-dates-back-to-1798-at-least/</a></p>
<p>As our society becomes more complex and requires more of the so-called Executive Functions (planning, prioritizing, etc.), ADHD often becomes more obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 17:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That should have read &#039;aspartame&#039;, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That should have read &#8216;aspartame&#8217;, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if ADHD IS a legitimate disorder - which I very much doubt - the behaviour patterns of many of these kids, and the dopamine deficiency, could very well be caused by all sorts of things - ie diet (aspamarte, etc, etc, etc), spending thousands of hours each year from a young age playing computer games, and so on. 

Do any of these kids get a chance to run around and play with their mates and climb trees and do all the things that most kids did years ago. Most of us ate plenty of sweets and drank fizzy drinks etc back then but at least we were able to burn off our energy. 

I just can&#039;t get my head round the idea that kids DIDN&#039;T have ADHD prior to twenty odd years ago and get put on speed as a consequence, and now millions of kids (but mainly only in the US for some strange reason!) supposedly have this mental disorder and are prescribed powerful drugs that make the pharmacuetical companies billions of dollars evey year thank-you-very-much.

I have no faith whatsoever in a bunch of people who regarded homosexuality as a mental disorder but then withdrew it from their DSM in the 1970s after big protests by the gay community and the political pressure brought to bear on them as a consequence. That&#039;s not medical science, it&#039;s complete farce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if ADHD IS a legitimate disorder &#8211; which I very much doubt &#8211; the behaviour patterns of many of these kids, and the dopamine deficiency, could very well be caused by all sorts of things &#8211; ie diet (aspamarte, etc, etc, etc), spending thousands of hours each year from a young age playing computer games, and so on. </p>
<p>Do any of these kids get a chance to run around and play with their mates and climb trees and do all the things that most kids did years ago. Most of us ate plenty of sweets and drank fizzy drinks etc back then but at least we were able to burn off our energy. </p>
<p>I just can&#8217;t get my head round the idea that kids DIDN&#8217;T have ADHD prior to twenty odd years ago and get put on speed as a consequence, and now millions of kids (but mainly only in the US for some strange reason!) supposedly have this mental disorder and are prescribed powerful drugs that make the pharmacuetical companies billions of dollars evey year thank-you-very-much.</p>
<p>I have no faith whatsoever in a bunch of people who regarded homosexuality as a mental disorder but then withdrew it from their DSM in the 1970s after big protests by the gay community and the political pressure brought to bear on them as a consequence. That&#8217;s not medical science, it&#8217;s complete farce.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Pera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Pera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see your point, but I&#039;m not sure that the term &quot;abnormal&quot; has the same meaning for scientists that it has for the rest of us. For scientists, I think it has more to do with data and not with any kind of judgment.

From what I know of Dr. Volkow (attending several of her lectures, etc.), I think she takes a pretty nuanced view. In other words, she might be the first to agree with you that these &quot;dopamine differences&quot; deserve further study for full implications. 

In the meantime, though, we face a society that is often science-ignorant, so we need solid proof that ADHD-related challenges aren&#039;t all a matter of willpower, etc.

Interesting times we live in!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see your point, but I&#8217;m not sure that the term &#8220;abnormal&#8221; has the same meaning for scientists that it has for the rest of us. For scientists, I think it has more to do with data and not with any kind of judgment.</p>
<p>From what I know of Dr. Volkow (attending several of her lectures, etc.), I think she takes a pretty nuanced view. In other words, she might be the first to agree with you that these &#8220;dopamine differences&#8221; deserve further study for full implications. </p>
<p>In the meantime, though, we face a society that is often science-ignorant, so we need solid proof that ADHD-related challenges aren&#8217;t all a matter of willpower, etc.</p>
<p>Interesting times we live in!</p>
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		<title>By: Treatment ADHD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Treatment ADHD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I think this study is awesome, the people at NIDA are doing a great job with the research. Having ADHD myself I can absolutely understand some of the conclusions from the data after reading the report.

However I still reluctantly have a problem with calling this abnormal. Even if there is a smaller number of dopamine receptors in people with ADHD symptoms who is to say that this is wrong. I understand that the behavior this difference creates causes problems for people, myself included, but perhaps we havent fully explored the benefits of this difference.

It reminds me of Pavlov&#039;s Dog and classical conditioning. Perhaps there is a reason not everyone is easily motivated by rewards and punishment. Any type of medication or treatment that would increase the dopamine receptors could easily be used in a retraining or reprograming scenario.

I know there are more issues here and I would love nothing more than for them to find something which alleviates the damage caused in peoples lives by ADHD. It is important research like this that keeps us moving forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I think this study is awesome, the people at NIDA are doing a great job with the research. Having ADHD myself I can absolutely understand some of the conclusions from the data after reading the report.</p>
<p>However I still reluctantly have a problem with calling this abnormal. Even if there is a smaller number of dopamine receptors in people with ADHD symptoms who is to say that this is wrong. I understand that the behavior this difference creates causes problems for people, myself included, but perhaps we havent fully explored the benefits of this difference.</p>
<p>It reminds me of Pavlov&#8217;s Dog and classical conditioning. Perhaps there is a reason not everyone is easily motivated by rewards and punishment. Any type of medication or treatment that would increase the dopamine receptors could easily be used in a retraining or reprograming scenario.</p>
<p>I know there are more issues here and I would love nothing more than for them to find something which alleviates the damage caused in peoples lives by ADHD. It is important research like this that keeps us moving forward.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Pera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Pera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 04:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for stopping in, Arnold!

If I weren&#039;t rushing to speak at several ADHD-related fundraisers, I would try to put this study in context.  Perhaps when I return.

There is a large body of evidence that explains ADHD neurophysiology. But this study by superb scientist Nora Volkow definitely kicks it up a notch.

gina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for stopping in, Arnold!</p>
<p>If I weren&#8217;t rushing to speak at several ADHD-related fundraisers, I would try to put this study in context.  Perhaps when I return.</p>
<p>There is a large body of evidence that explains ADHD neurophysiology. But this study by superb scientist Nora Volkow definitely kicks it up a notch.</p>
<p>gina</p>
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		<title>By: arnold peters</title>
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		<dc:creator>arnold peters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 03:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Gina.
I am not personally affected by ADHD, but I find neuroscience interesting.  My heart goes out to all those that are affected.  
Your post indicates that we already knew that L-DOPA  helps increase attention to cognitive tasks, but this large study supports the theory.
Your post prompted me to look into Dopamine.  I did not know that Dopamine deficiency was also related to Parkinson&#039;s Disease.  
I kinda got sidetracked learning about the prediction learning method called Temporal Difference (TD), which is related to ADHD.
Thanks for all you do to keep us up to date on the latest ADHD information!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Gina.<br />
I am not personally affected by ADHD, but I find neuroscience interesting.  My heart goes out to all those that are affected.<br />
Your post indicates that we already knew that L-DOPA  helps increase attention to cognitive tasks, but this large study supports the theory.<br />
Your post prompted me to look into Dopamine.  I did not know that Dopamine deficiency was also related to Parkinson&#8217;s Disease.<br />
I kinda got sidetracked learning about the prediction learning method called Temporal Difference (TD), which is related to ADHD.<br />
Thanks for all you do to keep us up to date on the latest ADHD information!</p>
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