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		<title>By: Problems aren’t all bad, but I detest being fearful &#124; ADDER WORLD ADD ADHD Positive Thinking</title>
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		<dc:creator>Problems aren’t all bad, but I detest being fearful &#124; ADDER WORLD ADD ADHD Positive Thinking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gina Pera has an important post where she takes a certain talk show host to task for suggesting through insinuation that paddling [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lew Mills</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lew Mills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 22:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Gina for creating the &quot;Hall of Shame&quot; Department. I know it will be a favorite for me and all your readers. 

Unfortunately, there are going to be so many inductees! The trite nonsense about ADHD being a normal variant of childhood (and adulthood?) is just too easy for lazy media meat-heads. 

Maybe we can embarrass a few of them into cleaning it up and doing their jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Gina for creating the &#8220;Hall of Shame&#8221; Department. I know it will be a favorite for me and all your readers. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, there are going to be so many inductees! The trite nonsense about ADHD being a normal variant of childhood (and adulthood?) is just too easy for lazy media meat-heads. </p>
<p>Maybe we can embarrass a few of them into cleaning it up and doing their jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Pera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Pera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 19:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Doc Betsy, the singular lack of compassion -- what I refer to as &quot;mingy-minded meanness.&quot; The irony is that these people think they are acting in service to the children and adults who are, in their minds, being uncompassionately diagnosed and treated.

Thanks so much for sharing your story, Dr. McNeil, and being a fierce advocate for these kids.

I&#039;m honored to be visited by other esteemed bloggers. Kerch is an ADHD-savvy Life Coach.  Dr. Boyd writes a column on psychology and psychotherapy.  Of course Jeff is the brain behind Jeff&#039;s ADD Mind. Terry doesn&#039;t have a blog yet (that I know of), but I will try to channel his whip-smart observations and humor.  And welcome Adrian, who is active in the Twitter world.

It&#039;s great to have allies on the Internet. If you&#039;ve been reading the comic strip Pearls Before Swine lately, I&#039;ve been looking for the equivalent of an Internet Happy Box (escape from the meanies).  Found it here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Doc Betsy, the singular lack of compassion &#8212; what I refer to as &#8220;mingy-minded meanness.&#8221; The irony is that these people think they are acting in service to the children and adults who are, in their minds, being uncompassionately diagnosed and treated.</p>
<p>Thanks so much for sharing your story, Dr. McNeil, and being a fierce advocate for these kids.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m honored to be visited by other esteemed bloggers. Kerch is an ADHD-savvy Life Coach.  Dr. Boyd writes a column on psychology and psychotherapy.  Of course Jeff is the brain behind Jeff&#8217;s ADD Mind. Terry doesn&#8217;t have a blog yet (that I know of), but I will try to channel his whip-smart observations and humor.  And welcome Adrian, who is active in the Twitter world.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s great to have allies on the Internet. If you&#8217;ve been reading the comic strip Pearls Before Swine lately, I&#8217;ve been looking for the equivalent of an Internet Happy Box (escape from the meanies).  Found it here!</p>
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		<title>By: betsy davenport, phd</title>
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		<dc:creator>betsy davenport, phd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, good, Gina.  I have been talking about this with my daughter this week (after she was so stung and enraged by the show that she was - uncharacteristically - crying while gripping the remote control til it whitened her hand).  I wondered aloud about my strong reaction to the AD/HD &quot;discussion&quot; and the COPD crack as well.  I am always pissed when I read and hear the same witless blather.  It does not evoke shame in me, but it always gives me a sharp stab in the stomach as I immediately think of the untold millions who are still suffering, many of whom will, as my daughter said, now go without what they need, and some of them may well lose their lives as an indirect result.

No, what really got to me was this.  Coupled with the gratuitous crack about COPD (that could have been my father when I took him to the last baseball game he ever saw, and he was too oxygen deprived to even carry the damned tank and too embarrassed to wheel it around), I reacted to the singular lack of compassion coming from Bill Maher and from the rest of them as well.

It is that failure of empathy I found so painful -- more painful than a stray comment about how people are over medicated -- because if a person can’t imagine himself into a coal miner’s boots he surely can’t imagine himself into my Brain.  I have no need of Maher’s understanding, but there are millions who need someone’s understanding (or, at the very least, their credulity) and if a bright educated guy who reads is tossing off that kind of misinformation and scorn, what will become of them?

Not everyone has easy access to the public square and I think those who find themselves there have an obligation to treat the privilege – and their listeners – with respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, good, Gina.  I have been talking about this with my daughter this week (after she was so stung and enraged by the show that she was &#8211; uncharacteristically &#8211; crying while gripping the remote control til it whitened her hand).  I wondered aloud about my strong reaction to the AD/HD &#8220;discussion&#8221; and the COPD crack as well.  I am always pissed when I read and hear the same witless blather.  It does not evoke shame in me, but it always gives me a sharp stab in the stomach as I immediately think of the untold millions who are still suffering, many of whom will, as my daughter said, now go without what they need, and some of them may well lose their lives as an indirect result.</p>
<p>No, what really got to me was this.  Coupled with the gratuitous crack about COPD (that could have been my father when I took him to the last baseball game he ever saw, and he was too oxygen deprived to even carry the damned tank and too embarrassed to wheel it around), I reacted to the singular lack of compassion coming from Bill Maher and from the rest of them as well.</p>
<p>It is that failure of empathy I found so painful &#8212; more painful than a stray comment about how people are over medicated &#8212; because if a person can’t imagine himself into a coal miner’s boots he surely can’t imagine himself into my Brain.  I have no need of Maher’s understanding, but there are millions who need someone’s understanding (or, at the very least, their credulity) and if a bright educated guy who reads is tossing off that kind of misinformation and scorn, what will become of them?</p>
<p>Not everyone has easy access to the public square and I think those who find themselves there have an obligation to treat the privilege – and their listeners – with respect.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gina,

Once again you&#039;re the &quot;leader of the pack,&quot; opening new paths and opening more minds in the process. Bravo!

Now...some possible inductees to the Hall of Shame: Dr. Breggin; Dr. Baughman; Dr. Phil and his advisor Dr. Lawlis (notice how many have &quot;Dr.&quot; before their name).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gina,</p>
<p>Once again you&#8217;re the &#8220;leader of the pack,&#8221; opening new paths and opening more minds in the process. Bravo!</p>
<p>Now&#8230;some possible inductees to the Hall of Shame: Dr. Breggin; Dr. Baughman; Dr. Phil and his advisor Dr. Lawlis (notice how many have &#8220;Dr.&#8221; before their name).</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 02:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for putting this up. It is discouraging. Of course there is a definite kernel of truth in the criticisms of medicating kids, but most of the discussion on ADD was astoundingly absolutist.

I think it would be helpful for there to be more admission and discussion that many kids from certain demographics are indeed over-diagnosed and over-prescribed, and that medicating should always be done by skilled, specialized providers, and never as the first course of action.

That said, it is so painful to hear the ignorant blather coming from Huffington and Maher on this subject. So much misery has come from the idea that a kick in the ass will solve problems with kids. I didn&#039;t expect this f from either of these people, despite Mahers diet beliefs.  The other two guys--well, what can you expect? 

Very disheartening. Thanks again for covering it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for putting this up. It is discouraging. Of course there is a definite kernel of truth in the criticisms of medicating kids, but most of the discussion on ADD was astoundingly absolutist.</p>
<p>I think it would be helpful for there to be more admission and discussion that many kids from certain demographics are indeed over-diagnosed and over-prescribed, and that medicating should always be done by skilled, specialized providers, and never as the first course of action.</p>
<p>That said, it is so painful to hear the ignorant blather coming from Huffington and Maher on this subject. So much misery has come from the idea that a kick in the ass will solve problems with kids. I didn&#8217;t expect this f from either of these people, despite Mahers diet beliefs.  The other two guys&#8211;well, what can you expect? </p>
<p>Very disheartening. Thanks again for covering it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Katherine Nell McNeil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Katherine Nell McNeil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gina, you are an angel. Thank you for helping with this battle.  I am a special education teacher of high school students with severe emotional/behavioral issues.  Most have a combination of ADHD and learning disabilities and comorbid conditions such as anxiety, bi-polar disorder, depression, and obsessive compulsive to name a few.  I have taught this student population for the past 11 years and I can&#039;t tell you how many time I have heard from individuals that all these kids needs is there &quot;ass kicked&quot; to get them back in line.  I try to explain that many have had year of physical, emotional, and sexual abuse in addition to their disabilities.  Because their disability is invisible there is a group that just refuses to believe in their disability and we won&#039;t even go into appropriate therapy and medication as part of their treatment plan.  

When they are all done ranting and raving I ask them, &quot;What are the chances of a high school student with who has a 1.6 GPA, and barely makes it out of high school getting a BA?  They give me a funny look and tell me &quot;Maybe 10%.&quot;  I then ask, &quot;Ok, what are the chances of a high school who has a 1.6 GPA, barely makes it out of high school, and can&#039;t write a paragraph getting a MA? They tell me &quot;Maybe 2%.  I then tell them I have one last question, &quot;What are the chances of a high school who has a 1.6 GPA, barely makes it out of high school, and can&#039;t write a paragraph has severe ADHD and profound learning disabilities getting a PhD? They just laugh and tell me, &quot;Not a chance, no how no way.&quot; Then they laugh.  I look at them dead in the eye and tell them that the hypothethical student I just described to them was me and that I was written off by all my teachers too and I will never turn my back on any of my students because if I can achieve what I have starting at the age of 32 and finishing my PhD at 49, so can my students.  It leaves them with their mouths open.  

If I can leave someone questioning their beliefs then I have done my job.  If anyone is curious about what I do everyday here is a short video.  I teach 4 period of social studies and 2 periods of Digital Media Design.  The video is of Digital Media Design.

http://www.classroomofthefuture.org/2009achieve.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gina, you are an angel. Thank you for helping with this battle.  I am a special education teacher of high school students with severe emotional/behavioral issues.  Most have a combination of ADHD and learning disabilities and comorbid conditions such as anxiety, bi-polar disorder, depression, and obsessive compulsive to name a few.  I have taught this student population for the past 11 years and I can&#8217;t tell you how many time I have heard from individuals that all these kids needs is there &#8220;ass kicked&#8221; to get them back in line.  I try to explain that many have had year of physical, emotional, and sexual abuse in addition to their disabilities.  Because their disability is invisible there is a group that just refuses to believe in their disability and we won&#8217;t even go into appropriate therapy and medication as part of their treatment plan.  </p>
<p>When they are all done ranting and raving I ask them, &#8220;What are the chances of a high school student with who has a 1.6 GPA, and barely makes it out of high school getting a BA?  They give me a funny look and tell me &#8220;Maybe 10%.&#8221;  I then ask, &#8220;Ok, what are the chances of a high school who has a 1.6 GPA, barely makes it out of high school, and can&#8217;t write a paragraph getting a MA? They tell me &#8220;Maybe 2%.  I then tell them I have one last question, &#8220;What are the chances of a high school who has a 1.6 GPA, barely makes it out of high school, and can&#8217;t write a paragraph has severe ADHD and profound learning disabilities getting a PhD? They just laugh and tell me, &#8220;Not a chance, no how no way.&#8221; Then they laugh.  I look at them dead in the eye and tell them that the hypothethical student I just described to them was me and that I was written off by all my teachers too and I will never turn my back on any of my students because if I can achieve what I have starting at the age of 32 and finishing my PhD at 49, so can my students.  It leaves them with their mouths open.  </p>
<p>If I can leave someone questioning their beliefs then I have done my job.  If anyone is curious about what I do everyday here is a short video.  I teach 4 period of social studies and 2 periods of Digital Media Design.  The video is of Digital Media Design.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.classroomofthefuture.org/2009achieve.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.classroomofthefuture.org/2009achieve.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gina Pera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Pera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Katherine!   I can&#039;t tell you how thrilled I am to meet a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist who &quot;believes&quot; in ADHD!  

In fact, I&#039;ve encountered enough ADHD-bashing by other Pulitzer winners, I thought it was taught in a j-school class that I&#039;d somehow missed.  ;-)

Folks, Katherine is also the author of The Mommy Brain: How Motherhood Makes Us Smarter.  Click on her name to visit her website, or click here: http://www.themommybrain.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Katherine!   I can&#8217;t tell you how thrilled I am to meet a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist who &#8220;believes&#8221; in ADHD!  </p>
<p>In fact, I&#8217;ve encountered enough ADHD-bashing by other Pulitzer winners, I thought it was taught in a j-school class that I&#8217;d somehow missed.  <img src='http://adhdrollercoaster.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Folks, Katherine is also the author of The Mommy Brain: How Motherhood Makes Us Smarter.  Click on her name to visit her website, or click here: <a href="http://www.themommybrain.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.themommybrain.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: katherine ellison</title>
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		<dc:creator>katherine ellison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are the greatest for writing this!</description>
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		<title>By: Gina Pera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Pera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for chiming in, folks. Nominees always welcome! 

John writes a great blog about bi-polar disorder, among other subjects -- &lt;a href=&quot;http://knowledgeisnecessity.blogspot.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Knowledge is Necessity.&lt;/a&gt;

And you know, I did &quot;go positive&quot; -- I&#039;m positive these people belong in the Hall of Shame! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for chiming in, folks. Nominees always welcome! </p>
<p>John writes a great blog about bi-polar disorder, among other subjects &#8212; <a href="http://knowledgeisnecessity.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Knowledge is Necessity.</a></p>
<p>And you know, I did &#8220;go positive&#8221; &#8212; I&#8217;m positive these people belong in the Hall of Shame! <img src='http://adhdrollercoaster.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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